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editor and msnbc political editor john heilman. new glasses. >> just paying attention. >> oh, my john meechum's book 8.3 million people and 8.3 "thomas jefferson, the art of million stories. power" is out in paperback. that's the focus of the blog and in washington, white house humans of new york founded by former bond trader brandon correspondent -- thank god -- for the associated press, julie stanton. he travels the big apple capturing the images and the pace. good to have you. stories from this great city, >> so you guys aren't number one with a bullet yet, but you are and louis met up with brandon to close. right? >> i haven't checked the amazon find out how he went from losing his job to biltding an online following of nearly 2 million people. rating. >> you said it was "killing jesus." krauthammer, man, he's selling books. >> he's doing well. >> i went to a bookstore. >> reporter: nows of portraits elm street bookstore. and stories, 29-year-old brandon stanton is one of the few that doing an vent in a week or two. has captured the essence of new they said charles krauthammer is york by putting a human face on this magical city. kicking it, man. for me, he's always bipartiseeno >> excuse me. i was wonderring if i could photograph you guys just like

and i can't stand you guys i'm that. i run a website. >> i saw you lay down on the ground while you were talking to glad he's doing well. this couple. >> my girlfriend will not let me >> conservatives sell a lot of get into bed in my clothes. books. >> with krauthammer it's i love this. thoughtful conservativism. if i'm talking to somebody, if i'm photographing, i am on the a lot of books out there aren't ground. >> why is that? thoughtful. this is rewarding that conservatives are coming out of >> i like low angles. their homes and going to it's a great picture. bookstores and buying an and when i'm talking to somebody i don't want to be towering over intelligent conservative book them. like krauthammer's. you're impossible to take a bad >> are you saying conservatives picture of. i started photographing at the age of 26 as sort of a release are too pale owe litic for from the stress of work because it wasn't going too well. e-books -- >> what the heck? my goal was to take 10,000 >> we're more communal. portraits of people and plop we love people. we love americans. them on a map of the city. we love walking down the street, through the course offing to you know, and just hugging that i started having little people and petting dogs. liberals will stay in their conversations with these people i was photographing, so i would basements eating chee tos and include a little capture, a order on amazon.com. little quote of what they said. as it evolved more and more i >> double down. >> and double down. started having deeper and deeper >> living in the 21st accept. conversations and suddenly the >> there are two realms blog evolved from this photography blog to a conservatives dominated. >> too bad the websites are storytelling blog. stuck in 1847. would you feel comfortable sitting right here?

>> conservatives dominated on >> yeah. >> sit right there and i'll get hardcover books and talk radio. down here with you. what are you most afraid of now? >> going back to a place or a there are liberal successes but for whatever reasons time in my life where i didn't have all the tools to be strong. conservatives have done a lot better in those areas. it's hard to do political books >> a good interview and one i'm that are neutral and objective and do well. going to get a good piece of >> you guys have done it before, done it again. content, there's a moment where it's exciting. the framework of being in an interview kind of falls away and suddenly you're just really interested in what that person >> got a love letter to "double is saying. down" from a difficult book you're not thinking about getting quotes or anything. critic. playing the game with an insider you're focused on their story. look t at the players. and as another human, just being the art section of the new york interested in that person's times. >> really? story. and that's kind of being in the she's tough. >> wow, guys. moment, where you forget about the process and you're just kind why do you look so grumpy. of absorbed in the conversation. >> just gratified. >> how much of a role does your >> we have a lot to get to. >> with head shots. father's displeasure have in your life? >> that's exciting. >> i think negative inspiration >> look at this. is a big thing. when they review my books it's >> what has been the most difficult, to be honest? so ugly they not only insult me, >> when you're being confronted with negative things. they insult everybody within a square mile of me. >> the art is in creating this >> look how tough. >> i know. >> we have news to get to, joe. space where you can forget about the process and just be two people present in the moment.

there was this one time i was at columbus circle and it was >> i said mannix yesterday. pouring down rain and there was it's more steve lord. this 80-year-old woman walking >> how do you describe the angle towards me with this very bright of pi head? umbrella. i asked her, if you could give >> contorted and your hair is one piece of advice to a large parted down the middle. >> looks like a young raymond group of people, what would that advice be? she said i'll tell you what my burr. >> he does. husband told me when he was >> today is election day. we have important elections dying. i said, "mo, how am i going to here. >> decision day in two states. voters selecting their next live without you? take the love you have for me governor. both races could set the tone and spread it around." for the 2014 midterms and the >> reporter: e.d. white once wrote the city is like poetry. 2016 presidential race. we'll start in virginia where it compresses all life, all the latest quinnipiac poll shows races and breeds into a small island and adds music. life goes on. the island of manhattan is without any doubt the greatest terry mcauliffe ahead of ken human concentrate on earth. cuccinelli by six points. last month it was 12. brandon stanton captures that one frame at a time. >> wow. >> okay. cuccinelli said he's optimistic lewis, that was good. about pulling off the upset. senator marco rubio helped him clayton. that was really good. thank you. deliver a final pitch putting up next, chris christie the focus squarely on banl. looking for a landslide >> i know tomorrow night the re-election in new jersey. people of virginia will send a clear message to our country and joe, stop.

and a -- stop. the democratic party. >> absolutely. >> yeah! we'll be right back. >> we don't want obama care. >> nope. my customers can shop around-- >> we don't want more big government. >> no! >> i'm scared to death of what obama care is doing to virgin n virginians. terry mcauliffe is scared of what it's doing to him. [ cheers ] >> vice president joe biden hit the trail saying the election is a chance to push back against extreme ideology. >> i think the motto of the tea party should be back to the future. [ laughter ] >> no, really. think about it. these guys are the antithesis of see who does good work and compare costs. change and progress. it doesn't usually work that way with health care. everything they talk about but with unitedhealthcare, i get information on quality rated doctors, without exaggeration is about treatment options and estimates for how much i'll pay. turning back what the rest of the country and the world thinks that helps me, and my guys, make better decisions. is progress.

it's hard to fathom this day i don't like guesses with my business, and definitely not with our health. innovations that work for you. that's health in numbers. being led by a man who rejects unitedhealthcare. all that the new thinking stands for. >> some are pointing out that the vice president didn't mention president obama nor the affordable care act during his entire speech. >> smart move. >> the president campaigned for mcauliffe a day earlier. julie pace, weigh in on the race. >> speaking of biden i don't think you want to talk about obama care when you're tying to get a democrat elected. that was a smart move. democrats feel good about what they are seeing in virginia now. terry is hardly a perfect candidate. there are draw backs in having be the nominee. but either seeing money raised for democrats. he built support in the state, learned lessons from his last run for governor. for democrats looking forward

as your life changes, fidelity is there there was concern that obama was maybe able to win because he's a unique candidate and can appeal for your personal economy, to certain groups democrats helping you readjust along the way, can't appeal to. democrats are looking and saying refocus as careers change maybe the obama model can be and kids head off to college, applicable for the future. and revisit your investments >> so either of you guys share as retirement gets closer. wherever you are today, my skepticism in the polls that fidelity's guidance can help you fine-tune your personal economy. show eight, nine, ten points? start today with a free i say it only because virginia one-on-one review of your retirement plan. sl -- terry mcauliffe doesn't fit tightly in virginia. cuccinelli said a lot puts him outside the main stream of virginia voters. i find it hard to believe terry will win by five, six, seven, eight points. >> you will get in a race like that in a competitive state and it's not the "fumbling around with rotating categories" card. it's called natural tightening. the margins won't stay big. it's not the "getting blindsided by limits" card. what keeps terry with a big it's the no-game-playing, no-earning-limit-having, enough cushion is the gender deep-bomb-throwing, gap. give-me-the-ball-and-i'll-take- it-to-the-house, cash back card. the big difference between chris christie's effort in a bluer this is the quicksilver cash card from capital one.

state in new jersey and cuccinelli in virginia is unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, christie has solved to a large everywhere, every single day. extent the female issue though his opponent is a woman. so let me ask you... he's done a better job of the what's in your wallet? kind of obama voters cuccinelli hasn't reached -- younger voters and minority voters. >> here's the question. both candidates are pro life. >> exactly. >> in new jersey, pro life chris christie has a massive gender gap except the women are on his side. in a state that's less pro life than virginia. what's the difference between cuccinelli and -- >> tim kaine was personally pro life and was able to win in ♪ we shall walk virginia, too. there are ways of being pro-life good morning. and not affecting large portions it's 8:00 on the east coast, of the female electorate. 5:00 a.m. on the west coast as ken cuccinelli has not pulled it you take a live look at new york city. back with us on the set, the double down boys. off. ? chris christie has. double "d." terry is not what one would call >> mark halpern and john a right fit candidate for the adelman.

>> these guys are great, willie. >> in nashville, john meacham. old virginia. one of the things that's true and in washington, the about virginia is it's changed a associated press's julie pace. lot. >> we've got some important there is a reason barack obama was able to win in 2008 and elections here. >> so decision day in two 2012. there are transient voters, states. voerpts selecting their next young, hispanic voters there. governor and both races could set the tone for both the 2014 the state profile is different midterms and the 2016 than it was even ten years ago. presidential race. it puts him in the position mark we'll start in virginia where said because of the financial the latest quinnipiac shows vanl he's had in a position to win. i don't ting he'll win by eight democrat terry mcauliffe ahead points. >> yeah. >> he's going to end up closer of ken cuccinelli by six points. to three or four. it looks like he was going to a "washington post" last month showed mcauliffe with a 12-point win. >> so much of politics has to do lead. cuccinelli says he is optimistic about pulling off the upset. with personal style. senator marco rubio helped him bob mcdonald, every bit as deliver a final pitch, putting conservative as cuccinelli. the focus squarely on obama care. every bit as conservative. >> i know tomorrow night the people of virginia will send a and the guy won by, what, 20 clear message to our country and points? to the democratic party. the year after barack obama had we don't want obama care. >> nope. his massive victory. >> we don't want more big government. even before all the obama care >> no! >> i'm scared to death of what dust-up of 2010. obama care is doing to

virginians. i mean, he just wiped the terry mcauliffe is scared to democrats out. death of what obama care is doing to terry mcauliffe. >> yeah! so you've got to look at chris >> and tomorrow we need to make christie and bob mcdonald. his fears come true. there are ways to win in these purple-blue states. >> vice president joe biden hit the trail for mcauliffe. but you've got to make people he says the election is a chance think i guess you are focused on to push back against extreme jobs first, not ideology. ideology. >> i think the motto of the tea i don't think cuccinelli has done it. >> talk b about personal style. mark mentioned it with chris party should be "back to the christie in new jersey. if you look at from the last future" because -- no, really. election to how he's polling think about it. these guys are the antithesis, with african-american voters, he got no african-american voters the absolute antithesis of the first time. change and progress. he's not going to win that but everything they talk about, he's up to a significant percentage of the population. without exaggeration, is about same with latino voters. he's going beyond his issues which endares him to voters who turning back what the rest of the country and the world thinks normally wouldn't aline with him, including women. is progress. it's hard to fathom, it's hard if he can show by winning tonight, as we presume he will, to fathom this being led by a that he can bring with him voters ta a lot of republicans in a lot of states write off, man who rejects all that this that sends a huge message not new thinking stands for.

just in new jersey but >> some are pointing out that nationally. >> he's not afraid of bonding the vice president didn't with other groups. in new jersey the polls shows mention president obama, nor the affordable care act during his the not a question if republican entire speech. >> smart move. >> the president campaigned for chris christie will win re-election but how much. mcauliffe just one day earlier. julie pace, weigh in on the a poll finds christie leading race. >> well, speaking of biden, i don't think you want to be talking about obama care at this barbara buono by 20 points. point when you're trying to get a rutgers poll has him in the a democrat elected so, that was probably a smart move by him. lead 66 to 30%. i think that democrats feel really good about what they're if the margins hold christie seeing in virginia right now. will be the first republican to terry mcauliffe is hardly a perfect candidate. win more than 50% of the vote there are a lot of drawbacks in since 1988. having mcauliffe be your the new york times reports nominee. but what they're seeing is a lot democrats are doing everything of money raised for democrats, in their power to prevent mcauliffe was able to build a lot of support in the state. christie from getting a he learned some lessons from his landslide victory. last run for governor. $35 million has been spent by for democrats looking forward at outside groups during the new presidential elections in jersey election, the highest virginia, there had been some concerns that obama maybe was amount in any state ever with able to win in the state because he's a unique candidate and he the exception of california. can appeal to certain groups >> why waste that money? >> they are not using it to stop that maybe democrats can't traditionally appeal to. governor christie. so democrats are looking at this they are trying to control the and saying that maybe the obama legislature which they can do model can be applicable for the

with big targeted money in those districts. the last time the democratic future. >> so, either of you guys share party failed to stop a governor my skepticism in these polls who had presidential aspirations from a big re-election victory, that show 8, 9, 10 points? george bush, huge mistake on the i say that only because virginia democratic party. they ran a weak candidate, is -- i mean, it's -- terry didn't do damage to him and they got elected president. mcauliffe doesn't fit tightly in if governor christie is like the virginia. i know cuccinelli has said a lot of things that puts him outside president in three years, in of the mainstream of virginia large part it will owe to the fact that they have done no voters, but i still find it hard damage to him in the race. to believe that terry's going to >> yesterday, governor christie win by 5, 6, 7, 8 points. spoke about how this election >> you're going to get in a race will stand out from others. like that in a competitive state >> you watch what will happen paul begala taught me long ago, tomorrow. i absolutely believe that what natural tightening. you are going to see is you won't see the margins stay something that hasn't happened that big. what keeps terry with a big in this state? a generation. enough cushion is the gender i had all kinds of folks gap. i think the biggest difference whispering in my ear today. between chris christie's effort in a bluer state, new jersey, [ whispering ] and cuccinelli's effort in virginia is christie has solved i'm a democrat. don't tell anybody. to a large extent the female i'm voting for you. issue, even though his opponent [ applause ] is a woman, and he's done a much >> all right. yesterday, christie downplayed a better job of the kind of obama confrontation he had with a

public school teacher saying her voters that cuccinelli has not reached. minority voters. side of the exchange was, quote, >> here is the question, john grossly inaccurate. the teacher approached the heilman. both candidates are pro-life. governor asking why he believes >> exactly. new jersey public schools are >> in new jersey, pro-life chris failure factories. she said christie cut her off christie has a massive gender saying, by her account, what do you want? i'm tired of you people. gap except the women are on his christie denies that. he says, quote, what i said was side. >> mm-hmm. >> in a state that is actually it's never enough for you even less pro-life than people. no matter how much money i give virginia. >> well, as you -- >> what's the difference? it's never enough for you cuccinelli and -- people. >> well, tim kaine was a >> john meechum we have a democrat who was personally picture of chris christie. pro-life, who was able to win in virginia too. it's not quite ronald reagan so there's ways of being standing in front of the statue pro-life and not offending large of liberty. portions of the female t.j., if you could put it up. >> again. electorate. ken cuccinelli has not pulled >> i was referencing the picture that off and chris christie has. and, look, part of the thing is you put up. >> good. i think you're right, terry >> not exactly ronald reagan in mcauliffe is not what one would front of the statue of liberty call a stereotypically right fit labor day weekend. close. candidate for virginia. but that's just chris christie. the old virginia. the question everybody will be >> right. >> but one of the things that's asking tomorrow morning is true about virginia is it's whether his style of new jersey changed a lot. the demography has changed a translates to iowa, new hampshire, south carolina and lot. there was a reason barack obama florida. was able to win in 2008 and >> it's a little bit more 2012. there's a not of new transient

voters, young voters, new hispanic voters there. the state profile is dramatically different than it was even ten years ago. "jersey shore" than newt and it puts him in a position for the reason that -- mark said rockney. the questions are can a center because of the financial he's had in a position to win. right republican like christie i don't think he's going to win survive the primaries in 2016 by eight points. the reason i think he's going to end up probably closer to three and take the party back or or four. but it looks like he's going to control the further right. win. >> willie, so much of -- so much the other story i think will be the clintons. of politics has to do with the virginia victory b will be personal style. seen as a victory for the bob mcdonald, every bit as clinton wing because of conservative as cuccinelli. mcauliffe's long time association. you were showing the images every bit as conservative. there. the irony for obama is he's the and the guy won by, what, 20 guy who passes health care. points? in 2009. the clintons don't. the year after barack obama had the clintons seem to be the his massive victory. political winners. even before all the obama care >> very, very interesting. >> really. >> one more race to get to. dust-up of 2010. >> this is a big one. i know when it started but, i >> it's viewed as a battle that will shape the future direction mean, he just wiped the of the republican party. democrats out. today's special election run-off you've just got to look at chris in alabama's first congressional christie and bob mcdonald. there are ways to win in these district.

former state senator brendan purple, blue states. but you've got to make people byrne is squaring off against think i guess you're focused on jobs first and not ideology, and dean you dean young, a tea party i don't think cuccinelli has done that. >> you talk about personal businessman. many are backing byrne including style, mark mentioned it with chris christie in new jersey. i mean, there's a reason. the chamber of commerce who if you look at even from the last election to how he's poll spent nearly $200,000 on the right now with african-american race. young has praised the tea party, voters. he got no african-american making it clear how he intends voters the first time. to legislate. at a debate last month he said, he's not going to win that vote, but he's up to a significant quote, if you send me to percentage of the population. same goes with latino voters. congress it will be like sending ted cruz to washington. he's doing something beyond his positions on the issues which >> he questions byrne's faith endear him to voters who normally wouldn't be aligned and says he doesn't believe in with him, and that includes with the bible the way you should him. if he can show by winning believe in the bible. tonight, as we presume he will, that he can bring those groups this is an extraordinary race with him, voters in a lot of because of how quickly states right off, that sends a conservative business people huge message not just in new have weighed in. jersey but nationally. ricketts who, of course, is a >> unafraid of bonding with other groups as well. in new jersey, the polls show huge contributor to the republican party and a very, it's not a question if republican governor chris very conservative guy. christie will win re-election

he plays a small role in "double but rather how much. a quinnipiac poll finds christie down." leading barbara buono by 28 he has piled over $100,000 into points. monmouth university has christie bradley byrne's campaign because up by 20, and a rutgers poll has he wants a rock solid him in the lead 66 to 30%. conservative but a guy who if those margins hold, chris doesn't want what i thought the christie will become the first national review was a perfect republican in the state to win term. more than 50% of the vote since apocalyptic conservative. he doesn't want an apocalyptic 1988. but "the new york times" reports conservative. democrats are doing everything he wants a conservative that can in their power to prevent actually pass legislation. christie from getting a landslide victory. >> right. one of the things that's a total of $35 million has been interesting here i think spent by outside groups during historically is the goldwater the new jersey election, the movement was driven by small highest amount in any state ever with the exception of town businessmen who resented california. >> why would they raise that the new deal, who resented the money? >> i don't know. >> why would they waste it? >> why would they -- >> they're not using it to try interference in the marketplace, the labor laws. to stop governor christie. they're using it to try to hold and now, interestingly, a couple generations later, really the control of the legislature, which they can do with big chambers of commerce and the targeted money in those districts. rotary clubs of the country are the last time the democratic party failed to stop a governor the republican establishment. >> right. who had presidential aspirations >> the insurgents who were from a big re-election victory, fighting against eisenhower and george bush. huge mistake on the democratic

were the goldwater guys and party. they ran a weak candidate, became the reagan stalwarts are didn't do any damage to him, and he got elected president. as uncomfortable with the right and if governor christie is like the president in three years as they were with the left. i think it's arguable that the it's i think in large part going to owe to the fact that they've center of gravity for republicans is somewhere between done no damage there. cultural conservatives and more >> yesterday governor christie radical guys and the rotary spoke about how this election club, kiwanis club, chamber of will stand out from others. commerce folks who are focused >> you watch what's going to to happen tomorrow. on the bottom line. i absolutely believe that what >> tell us more about ricketts. you're going to see tomorrow is something that hasn't happened he's a really, really in this state in a generation. conservative guy. i had all kinds of folks >> he's a really conservative guy. >> he's come in to this race to whispering in my ear today, "i'm say, enough, we want the pro business conservative pro life guy. >> he's not a guy that's a democrat. don't tell anybody. i'm voting for you." traditionally had culture war politics. he's focused the -- his super >> all right. yesterday christie also down pac was focused on spending. played a confrontation he had with a public schoolteacher saying her side of the exchange the proposal made to him when he was, grote, grossly inaccurate. was looking to spend money to the teacher reportedly defeat obama the proposal made approached the governor asking to him by a conservative super why he believes new jersey public schools are failure pac by some republican factories.

she says christie cut her off consultants was to take on obama say, by her account, "what do over reverend wright. you want? i'm tired of you people." he never approved that proposal. cristy denies it happened like his main focus has always been that. he says, "what i said was it's on fiscal issues. never enough for you people, no i think in this case he's looking at someone standing up matter how much money i give. it's never enough for you saying i want to bring ted cruz people." politics to washington. >> yon meacham, we'll show you if you want to stop spending in this picture of chris christie. it's not quite ronald reagan washington, if you want to win standing in front of the statue as the point has been made, there is a better way to go b of liberty. about that in terms of practical t.j., if you could put it up. i was referencing the picture politics than the ted cruz, as you just -- >> there you go. >> not exactly ronald reagan in you said, and the national front of the statue of liberty review said apocalyptic brand of labor day weekend. close. republican. >> as i said this weekend it's but that's just chris christie. like being a cowboys fan and running up the middle on fourth the question everybody's going to be asking tomorrow morning is and 31 on your own ten yard line whether this style of new jersey translates to iowa, new instead of punting. you can say it makes me a man hampshire, south carolina, and because i will run a fullback florida. >> it's a little more jersey trap up the middle. no. shore than knute rockne, that's it's just stupid tactics if you want to win. >> we have a lot to get to this true. and you're right, the two morning. the president started clarifying stories the rest of the week are going to be on the republican the message on obama care. side, are can a venter right

thought it was good. >> that was awful. republican like christie survive >> you thought it was good? the primaries in '16 and take that was pathetic. >> no, no, no. the party back from -- or >> he's using we instead of i. >> we have to go now. control the further right. but we will talk about it. and the other story i think is going to be the clintons -- i that's a tease. >> you think it's good? think the virginia victory is >> i actually -- going to be seen as a victory >> what he did was embarrassing. for the clinton wing of the >> coming up on "morning joe," party because of mcauliffe's chuck todd on what to look for longtime association. you were showing the images in today's big races and steve there. so i think the story's going to schmidt will be here. former chief of staff to be -- and the irony for obama is president bush andy card and he's the guy who passes health care, the clintons don't, but frank bruni explains why hillary the clintons seem to be the political winners. clinton's path to the white >> interesting. very interesting. house might be tougher than it >> really does. >> one more race to get to. seems. up next, the political playbook. >> this is a big one. >> this is a big one. it's been viewed as a battle, only mike can do that. but it will shift the future i love his socks. direction of the republican >> i would argue mike shouldn't. party. today's special election runoff in alabama's first congressional just because you can doesn't mean you should. district. former state senator bradley >> here's bill with a check on the forecast. >> i don't think i would even do byrne on the left is squaring that by mistake. off against dean young, a tea good morning. on this election day, very cold party-backed businessman. in new england. many republicans and business but it will be dry. the troublesome weather in the groups have blamed the tea party for causing the recent

middle of the country. government shutdown and are heading out the door today backing byrne. that includes the chamber of dressed just like yesterday. we are very cool. commerce which spent nearly temperatures are in the 20s from $200,000 on the race. albany to hartford. 33 in boston. for his part, young has praised it's warmer d.c. to new york. the tea party, making it clear throughout the next two days how he intends to legislate. at a debate last month, he said, heading into the 60s in some "if you guys send me to cases. even this afternoon will be warmer from philadelphia south, congress, it will be like baltimore and d.c. sending ted cruz to washington." the middle of the country is >> also his question, bradley where the troublesome weather is. winter weather will move across byrne's faith and says he really the plains. doesn't believe the bible the first snow of the season for way you should believe the minneapolis, much of nebraska, sioux falls, south dakota. bible. john meacham, this is an that snow is just breaking out extraordinary race, and in rapid city. extraordinary because how it's a narrow band but could add quickly conservative business up to four inches by tomorrow morning in spots. people have weighed in. also the rain is moving through st. louis, chicago. bring the umbrella. rickets, who of course is a huge a possibility of significant contributor to the republican airport delays with a storm party and very, very moving through the middle of the country. for the east coast it was cold, conservative guy, he plays a small role in double down. chilly and now the warm- up begins. he has piled over $100,000 into bradley byrne's campaign because

he wants a rock-solid conservative but a guy who is not -- he doesn't want what -- i thought national review had a perfect term, apock limitic conservative. he doesn't want an apocalyptic conservative. he wants a conservative that can actually pass legislation. >> right. you know, one of the things that's interest interesting here i think historically is the i started part-time, now i'm a manager.n. goldwater movement was driven by my employer matches my charitable giving. really. small-town businessmen who resented the new deal, who i get bonuses even working part-time. resented the interference in the where i work, over 400 people are promoted every day. marketplace, the labor laws, and now interestingly, a couple jep healthcare starting under $40 a month. i got education benefits. rations later really the i work at walmart. chambers of commerce and the i'm a pharmacist. rotary clubs of the country are sales associate. i manage produce. i work in logistics. the republican establishment. >> right. >> so the insurgents who were there's more to walmart than you think. vo: opportunity. that's the real walmart. fighting against eisenhower and were really the goldwater guys and became the reagan stalwarts, are as uncomfortable with the right as they were with the left. coming up on "morning joe," we'll check in with politico's

mike allen. plus developing details from last night's mall shooting in new jersey. police say the gunman is dead and everyone else escaped unharmed. what police are learni ining ab the suspect this morning. also, blackberry cannot seem to get it together. the stock plunges another 16% yesterday. >> willie, maybe we should just take it over. >> i think it's too late. if it could get the website to load in under five minutes then i'd be back on board. >> they just can't do it. >> but first, bill karins has a check on the forecast. bill? good morning to you, guys. in the midwest, that's our travel concern. it is pouring in st. louis right now. notice the leaves are changing. it looks really pretty, some of the oak leaves, but this is the type of weather that will bring the leaves down. and in the north, snow for our friends in minneapolis. but here's how it's looking this morning. notice the green and the rain pretty much covering up the state of missouri here. eventually that's heading for chicago. flying out of kansas city, st. louis, chicago today, expect

air travels today. not thunderstorms but still some delays. the snow on the side of this storm is a narrow band but rapid city, sioux fall, central nebraska, minneapolis, as much as 3 to 4 inches this time tomorrow morning. most will accumulate after dark tonight. a big shot of the rain. how much will we get? houston and dallas could pick up half an inch to an inch of rain. eventually indianapolis and cleveland later on tonight into tomorrow morning. this system will slowly slide to the east in the next couple days. they always have. they always will. a cool, chilly start in new england but at least you'll have that's why you take charge of your future. some sunshine there. as we leave you with a nice shot your retirement. of washington, d.c., i got 60s in your forecast the middle of ♪ this week. ameriprise advisors can help you the cold snap very short lived. you're watching "morning joe." like they've helped millions of others. listening, planning, working one on one. mine was earned orbiting the moon in 1971. to help you retire your way... with confidence. that's what ameriprise financial does. that's what they can do with you. ameriprise financial. more within reach. afghanistan in 2009. on the u.s.s. saratoga in 1982.

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planet may be 12 light years or 72 trillion miles away. >> stuff like that makes my head hurt. the new york daily news. nine sky divers went up for fun in wisconsin but the planes they were in collided mid flight. miraculously everybody survived. anne thompson has the exclusive video. >> reporter: the last jump of the day for nine sky divers and two pilots nearly became the last flight of their lives. two planes out of control saturday evening. one plane breaking up in fiery debris. what looks to be certain disaster was not. watch again from a different angle and you can see what happened. in this video licensed by nbc news you see the divers in the second plane get out on the step preparing to jump. that plane appears to fly right on top of the first plane. there is a fireball and now divers from both planes, instead of flying in a planned formation

find themselves in a terrifying plummet. not only are they falling from 12,000 feet at 125 miles per hour, so are the burning parts of the first plane. all the divers opened their chutes and land safely. the pilot of the first plane gets out alive, too, using his time to take a look at the emergency parachute. morning papers. the "star-ledger." then there's this. >> come on, blake. police have found the body of a you've got it. come on. gunman they believe walked into >> reporter: blake whedon lands a new jersey mall firing shots the second plane at the airport though there is damage to the at gunmen. propellor and the wing. the shots d didn't hit anyone even though the mall was the jumpers and the pilots, all crowded. it happened at the westfield veterans of the sky, know how garden state plaza mall. close they came. shots were reported around 9:20 >> very, very lucky. last night right as the mall was about to close. any time two planes collide in as police approached the gunman, the air, it's a potential identified as richard shoop, he fled deeper into the mall disaster for everybody involved. instead of engaging with the so we were all very, very lucky armed officers. here. it was there where he took his >> reporter: after pursuing own life. "the washington post," a thrills in the air tonight for these 11 lucky people the bill to ban discrimination against members of the lgbt greatest thrill is just being alive. communities will advance to a full bill in the? senate. >> for those 11, if i were one the senate note voted to advance the employment nondiscrimination

of their spouses they would never see the light of day in act or enda passed monday night the air again ever. ever, ever. don't ever go flying again. with the support of seven are you kidding me? >> jumping out of a perfectly republicans. "san francisco chronicle," twitter increased the price of functioning airplane. >> i can't believe the pilot of its ipo by 25% as anticipation the second plane that was in continues to grow ahead of its flames got out with the initial stock offering on thursday. emergency chute. shares will now sell between $23 >> speaking of unreal -- and $25. >> i want to fly on the planes this sets twitter's valuation at more than $13 billion. and "l.a. times," blackberry that have the parachute. >> every plane. stocks are going to open today at $7 a share after plunging >> 747. >> anything happens. >> this is a waste of time. yesterday. the drop followed thues that the to politico. ceo is out and the plans for a >> focus. >> so much to get to. sale fell through. >> mike allen is here, chief at one point, shares fell as much as 16%. white house correspondent of "new york times," data collected from nasa's keppler politico. good to see you. telescope suggests there could be as many as 40 billion a lot of time in the new york. we like it. earth-sized planets in our >> "double down" day. you have uh to be here. galaxy. these planets are believed to >> officials warning insurance have surface temperatures which shopper to expect more outages are acceptable for the development of life. while they attempt to fix the the data also shows the nearest

issues plaguing health care.gov. planet may be 12 light-years or 72 trillion miles away. yesterday the website was down >> stuff like that makes my head approximately 90 minutes. today the wall street journal hurt. the "new york daily news" reports early buyers of over the weekend, nine skydivers insurance through obama care are went out for a little fun in trending older than expected wisconsin, but the two planes which could drive up costs for they were in collided midflight. everybody. they need young, healthy miraculously, everybody customers. last night president obama survived. nbc's anne thompson has the defended his health care law and the controversy around the exclusive video. number of cancelled policies >> reporter: the last jump of the day for nine skydivers and related to obama care. >> people are acting like this two pilots nearly became the last flight of their lives. is some new phenomenon. two planes and people out of every year there was churn in the individual market. control over superior, the average increase was double wisconsin, saturday evening. digits on premiums in this same one plane breaking up in fiery market. now, if you have or had one of debris. what looks to be certain disaster miraculously was not. these plans before the watch it again from a different affordable care act came into angle and you can see what law and you really liked that happens. in this video licensed by nbc plan what we said was you could news, you see the divers in the second plane get out on the step keep it -- if it hasn't changed preparing to jump. since the law has passed. that plane appears to fly right the rhetoric of reform is on top of the first plane. becoming the reality of reform. there's a fireball, and now we are not going back. so just remember this. divers from both planes instead of flying in a planned formation i have run my last political

campaign. find themselves in a terrifying but i will tell you what. i have one more campaign in me. plummet. not only are they falling from the campaign to make sure this 12,000 feet at 125 miles per law works for every single hour, so are the burning parts person in america. of the first plane. >> yes! >> mika is fired up. all the divers open their chutes and land safely. >> yes! the pilot of the first plane gets out alive, too, using his >> meanwhile, drive that straight over the cliff. go ahead, mr. president. emergency parachute. >> oh, please. and then there's this. >> new white house memos >> come on. acquired by abc news show the you got it. come on. >> reporter: blake wheaton lands problems go beyond the website. the second plane at the airport, even though there's damage to the documents say applying by the propeller and the wing. paper or phone is no better than the jumpers and the pilots, all doing so online. they are approve bid the same veterans of the sky, know how process. >> what? >> jay carney was asked about it close they came. >> very lucky. by abc's john carl. very, very lucky. anytime two planes collide in >> you said you can bypass the the air, i mean, it's potential website and apply by phone or in person and it can be done in 25 disaster for everybody involved. minutes. so we were all very, very lucky these memos say at the end of here. the day -- >> reporter: after pursuing >> okay. we don't have the sound bite. thrills in the air, tonight for these 11 lucky people, the it was a contentious back and forth. we'll play it in a second. greatest thrill is just being let's sift through it. it's a lot to digest. alive. >> okay. so those 11. what did we hear? >> it wasn't just contentious which you get every day in the >> yeah.

>> if i were one of those briefing room. you don't get jay carney spouses they would never see the light of day in the air again. basically mocking john carl, ever. imitating his tone. ever. ever go flying again. >> why would he do it? are you kidding me. >> there is great frustration. the abc memos showed not only >> i can't believe the pilot of the second plane underneath that was in flames got out in time. that the problem also exists if >> incredible. you apply by paper or by phone >> emergency chute. unbelievable. but that the administration well >> let's go to politico. >> i want to just fly in the knew it before the president planes that have, like, the came out and said the alternative ways are fine. parachutes themselves that -- >> yeah. >> i want those. >> they should be on every the congressional committees are plane. having a field day with notes. >> every plane. 747. >> anything happens -- they say war room notes at the >> idiotic waste of time. top. that's a reporter's dream. leapt's go to politico. turned over to congress, make it to reporters. >> focus. >> so much to get to. the wall street journal story is >> mike allen is here. a real canary in the coal mine. he's the chief white house correspondent of politico and the world-famous playbook each and every morning. the plan depends on getting good to see you. >> morninging, guys. young people like louis bergdorf >> lot of time in new york lately. >> doubledown day, you got to be here. >> let's talk affordable care into the plan. >> that ain't happening. act. officials warning insurance >> the government says people shoppers to expect even more like that will come in at the end but insurers are worried outages over the next month while they attempt to fix the already. it's already out of whack. issues plaguing healthcare.gov.

>> if it were a plan that would yesterday the website was down come with hair gel and mirrors for approximately 90 minutes. he would be there. today "the wall street journal" >> are they going to do that? reports early buyers of insurance through obama care are >> you were there yesterday, julie. trending older than expected, >> julie was at the briefing. which could drive up costs for >> talk about how contentious it everybody. they need those young, healthy became and jay carney mocking a customers. well respected reporter. last night, president obama defended his health care law and >> absolutely. this is something we say a lot the controversy surrounding the during political campaigns and number of canceled policies the same applies to the white related to obama care. house. any time you are turning your >> people are acting like this attention toward going after reporters and going after the is some new phenomenon. press i think that's a sign that you're in trouble. every year there was churning that's usually the last resort. this individual market, the average increase was double digits on premiums in this same going back to what obama said market. now, if you have or had one of last night, when he said we have said all along you could keep these plans before the affordable care act came into your plan unless it changed it law and you really liked that may be what's written in the law plan, what we said was you could or what becomes good policy. that's not what the president keep it if it hasn't changed said over the past three years. words matser, especially on since the law's passed. so the rhetoric of reform is something like this that's been becoming the reality of reform. unpopular with many members of the public. and we're not going back. seems like they tried to frame it in a way that would be more so just remember this. appealing but may not have been i have run my last political

campaign. true. >> john, word ds do matter. but i'll tell you what, i've got one more campaign in me. the campaign to make sure that the president last night said this law works for every single person in america. "we said you could keep your insurance if your plans didn't >> mika's fired up. >> yes! >> fired up. change." of course he didn't say we >> ready to go. killed osama bin laden, we did >> drive that -- >> stop it. this. suddenly he's spreading out the blame. >> -- bus straight over the he's saying something that's cliff. go ahead, mr. president. simply not true. the take a look at this, john. >> new white house memos acquired by abc news show the problems with the exchanges go this is new york magazine. beyond the website. the documents say applying for the conservative website put coverage by paper or phone is no this together. better than doing so online because they're all approved let's judge this. through the same process. >> whether it bears repeating. you can keep your plan if you yesterday press secretary jay are satisfied with it. conce if you like the plan you have carney was asked about that. >> you can bypass the website you can keep it. and apply in phone or in person if you like your plan and you like your doctor, you won't have and it can be done in 25 to do a thing. minutes. you keep your plan. these memos say at the end of sp f you like your health care the day we are all stuck in the plan, you will be able to keep same queue because we are all your health care plan. stuck in the same portal. if you've got health insurance >> john, i get it. you can keep it. but the person who calls isn't if you like your health care plan you will keep your plan. the one who continues to wait if you have life insurance, you after the paper application is like your doctor, you like your filled. >> your mocking is entertaining,

but the president said you can do apply in under 25 minutes. plan, you can keep your doctor, that's not true. you can keep your plan. >> let's sift through that. if you have insurance that you mike allen, what did we just like, you will be able to keep hear? that insurance. >> not just contentious, what if you like your doctor or you get every day in the health care plan, you can keep briefing room. it. what you don't get is jay carney if you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan. mocking john carl, imitating his if you like your health care tone, saying i get it. plan, you can keep your health care plan. >> why would he do that? >> there's a great frustration. if you like your private health insurance plan, you can keep your plan. if the you like your health care the abc news memos show the problem not only exists if you plan, you can keep your health apply by paper or phone but the care plan. if you like your private health administration well knew that before the president came out insurance plan, you can keep it. and said these alternative way if you want to keep the health are fine. so the congressional committees insurance you've got, you can are having a field day with keep it. if you like the insurance plan these notes. they actually say war room notes you have now, you can keep it. at the top, sort of a reporter's and if you like your insurance dream, turned over to congress, plan, you will keep it. make their way to reporters. so if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. "the wall street journal" story you cited at the top is a real [ cheers ] >> if you like your plan, keep canary in the coal mine because your plan. if you like your current the whole plan depends on getting young people like louis insurance, you will keep your current insurance. bergdorf into -- >> that ain't happening. if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. >> -- into the plan and the if you like your pralan, you ca white house, of course, says people like lou ris are still on

keep your plan. if you're happy with what you've their couch, will procrastinate and come in at the end, but got, nobody is changing it. insurers looking at the numbers >> i'm just a dumb country are already worrying saying it's lawyer and i'm not good with already out of whack. >> if there were a plan that words. it doesn't sound -- julie, i wold come with a lot of hair gel agree with julie pace here. and mirrors -- >> no deductible on the hair it doesn't sound like the president's claim last night was gel. >> products. >> julie, you were at the true. >> one of the things that's briefing yesterday. talk about how contentious it interesting about the first clip became and jay carney actually you played is the president had mocking a very well respected a tone of frustration. reporter. >> absolutely. a tone of, well, you can keep this is something we say a lot during political campaigns and your plan but there is always the same applies to the white churn in the markets as if we house. anytime you're turning your weren't quite bright enough to attention toward going after get that. reporters and going after the i think that's part of the issue press, i think that's a sign of this presidency. that you're in trouble. we'll be talking about it for that's usually the last resort. years to come about his ability and going back to what obama said at this ofa conference last to, a, communicate simply and night, you know, when he said we've said all along that you now accurately, and, b, to could keep your plan unless it changed, well, that may be really understand that, you what's written in the law, that know, we are all not quite as may be eventually what becomes slow perhaps as he thinks we good policy, but that's not what are. >> as dumb as we think. they said. that's not what the president on a lot of the clips if you said over the past three years. and words matter, especially on expand them out that we just

played he's exasperated with something like this that has been so unpopular with so many members of the public. republicans, too. >> they don't get it. it seems as though they tried to frame it in a way that was going >> they're not telling you the to be more appealing but may not truth. they're idiots. have been true. if you like your plan, you can >> words do matter and the keep your plan. now he's doing it the other way, president, i couldn't help but too. notice, president last night where we are all just the dumbest people on the planet and said we said you could keep your why don't we get it and why insurance if your plans didn't aren't we as elevated as he is change. of course he didn't say "we above the fray when he just didn't tell american it is truth killed osama bin laden," we did this. for three years. suddenly, he's spreading out the >> mike, quick. >> if you think the reel never blame, and he's saying something gets old, another leading that's simply not true. take a look at this, john. indicator, the first commercial that uses the clip in republican this is actually "new york" magazine. super pac is spending $340,000 the conservative website. put this together. which at this stage in the let's just judge whether the kentucky race is a lot. >> wow. president said this. >> -- bears repeating. >> they start with the clip of the president saying if you like your plan, you can keep your you can keep your plan if you are satisfied with it. plan. it's an ad attacking the if you like the plan you have, democrat al son grimes linking you can keep it. her to this. if you like your plan and you >> we have to talk more about like your doctor, you won't have this. >> first of all -- >> i will tell you why we need to do a thing. to talk to the john mee chum. you keep your plan. if you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan. if you've got health insurance, you can keep it.

if you like your health care when your plane is the in trouble, get the chute and jump plan, you will keep your plan. if you've got health insurance, out. there are ways to handle the you like your doctor, you like crisis. they are not handling it the your plan, you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan. right way. if you have insurance that you telling people they're stupid. having your press secretary mock like, then you will be able to one of the most respected people keep that insurance. if you like your doctor or in the white house press corps. maybe actually doing the george health care plan, you can keep washington retreat on long it. if you like your health care island in the summer of 1776, plan, you can keep your health care plan. maybe the this president needs a if you like your health care plan, you can chemoyour health six-month cooling off period. care plan. if you like your private health figure out how to make their insurance plan, you can keep your plan. if you like your health care website work. stop this. this is only getting worse for plan, you can keep your health them. they are digging deeper every care plan. day. >> you are hearing it from if you like your private health democrats. insurance plan, you can keep it. if you want to keep the health now it's democrats in red states. you will hear from more and more insurance you've got, you can democrats. six months, even a year, hoping keep it. if you like the insurance plan for breathing room saying in the you have now, you can keep it. end it would be a favor for the and if you like your insurance plan, you can keep it. white house. so if you like your plan, you >> mike allen, thank you so can keep your plan. much. >> "double down" day. if you like your plan, keep your >> aaron rodgers goes down in green bay. what happened to the star plan. if you like your current quarterback and how the packers

responded. sports is next. insurance, you will keep your current insurance. if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. (car starting) if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. great. this is the last thing i need. seriously? the last thing you need is some guy giving you if you're happy with what you've got, nobody's changing it. a new catalytic converter when all you got is a loose gas cap. >> so, john meacham, i'm just a dumb country lawyer and not what? it is that simple sometimes. really good with words, but it thanks. now let's take this puppy over to midas doesn't sound -- i agree with and get you some of the good 'ol midas touch. julie. it doesn't sound like the hey you know what? i'll drive! president's claim last night was true. >> one of the things that's and i have no feet... interesting about the first clip i really didn't think this through. you played from last night is trust the midas touch. the president had a tone of for brakes, tires, oil, everything. frustration, a tone of, well, (whistling) you can keep your plan, but of course there's always churn in american express credit card, these markets as if we weren't every purchase earns you 2% cash back, quite bright enough to get that. which is deposited in your fidelity account. and i think that that's part of is that it? actually... there's no annual fee and no limits on rewards. the issue of this presidency and i think we'll be talking act it for years to come about his and with the fidelity cash management account ability to, a, communicate debit card, you get reimbursed simply and now accurately, but, for all atm fees. is that it? oh, this guy, too. b, to really understand that turn more of the money you spend into money you invest. we're all not quite as slow

it's everyday reinvesting perhaps as he thinks we are. for your personal economy. >> as dumb as -- and by the way, on a lot of those clips, if you expand them out that we just played, he's really exasperated with republicans there, too. medicare open enrollment. of year again. they just don't get it. time to compare plans and costs. they're not telling you the truth. they're idiots. you don't have to make changes. if you like your plan, you can but it never hurts to see if you can find keep your plan. better coverage, save money, or both. so now he's doing it the other way, too, where we are all just and check out the preventive benefits the dumbest people on the you get after the health care law. planet. and why don't we get it and why aren't we as elevated as he is above the fray when, in fact, he open enrollment ends december 7th. just didn't tell americans the so now's the time. truth for three years. visit medicare.gov or call 1-800-medicare >> mike, quick. >> and, joe, if you think that reel never gets old, another leading indicator we had this morning, the first khmer thashl uses that clip in kentucky, ♪ republican superpac, is up, spending $340,000 at this stage [ male announcer ] more room in economy plus. is a lot. they start with the clip of the president saying if you like your plan, you can keep your more comfort, more of what you need. plan. it's an ad attacking the ♪ democrat, allison grimes, link herg to this. that's... built around you friendly. >> we're going to need to talk more about this.

♪ we need to talk to john meacham. and i'll tell you why. because you know what, when you're in trouble, when your plane is going down, you get the chute and you jump out. i'm telling you, there are ways to handle this crisis. they're not handling it the right way. telling people that they're stupid and they didn't understand what they were saying, having your press secretary going out, mocking one of the most respected people in the white house press corps, you know, maybe actually doing the george washington retreat on long island in the summer of 1776, maybe this president needs -- maybe they need a six-month cooling-off period. figure out how to actually make the website work, and stop this. because this is only going to get worse for them. they're digging deeper every day. >> and, joe, you're starting to hear that from democrats. right now it's democrats running in red states but you're going to start to hear it from more and more democrats. six months, even a year, looking for some breathing room, saying in the end it will be a fiver the white house. >> political coe-- politico's m

allen, thanks. next, former top adviser to president george w. bush, andy card, weighs in on the future of the republican party. so i c monday night football, bears and pack at lambeau. an reach ally bank 24/7, but there are no branches? the opening drive. 24/7. i'm sorry, i'm just really reluctant to try new things. rodgers goes down hard on his really? what's wrong with trying new things? look! mommy's new vacuum! shoulder. knocked out for the rest of the game. talking about the collarbone.

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that's what happened in the miami dolphins locker room. they suspended richie incog any to for sending racially charged texts and voicemails to jonathan martin. he said the bullying has been going on for 18 months dating back to last subpoena when he was a rookie. the dolphins want the nfl to investigate. incognito deleted tweets including one that said he wants his name cleared. one he didn't is three things cannot be hidden for long. but it doesn't usually work that way with health care. with unitedhealthcare, the sun, the moon, the truth. i get information on quality rated doctors, >> that bad? treatment options and cost estimates, >> terrible. >> i was trying to figure out so we can make better health decisions. why this football player was that's health in numbers. bullying jonathan martin from unitedhealthcare. the new york times. >> you don't screw with that jonathan martin. it's not good. up next, the early front runner. that doesn't mean hillary clinton will sail to the

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or you are ready for retirement, house chief of staff to we'll help you get there. president george w. bush andy card joining the conversation. >> what's going on in college station, andy? >> i tell you, aggieland is a great place to be. johnny football has all kinds of excitement going. so i'm proud to be in college station, texas, texas a&m university. >> okay. >> very nice. >> you didn't answer anymy question. >> no, we didn't. >> so anyway, go sox. i saw your brother the other night. way to go red sox. >> yes. yep. >> we have a lot to talk about, the republican party. i know you're not going to speak for president bush, but we heard president bush privately concerned about the rise of some of the more extreme elements in the tea party and certainly a lot of republicans are. what are you seeing this campaign day? what are you looking for to see the direction of the republican party moving forward? >> well, first of all, i think this election day is going to be more news and how people don't like president obama.

he really is kind of irrelevant in this process except for being a negative burden to candidates [ female announcer ] at 100 calories, who are not willing to carry. not all food choices add up. i think he's going to be the big some are giant. loser on this election day. some not so giant. but i also feel that we still when managing your weight, have the stridency in the bigger is always better. republican party and we'll have ♪ ho ho ho the divisiveness of the testing ♪ green giant of the tea party role and the moderate role, and i'm not sure there's going to be a clear resolution. i think chris christie is going to have a big victory and he'll try to ride a wave. i'm not sure that the wave is going to be sustained far long period of time. so i think we're still early on in the process. ♪ i don't think any candidate, a what's that? you look like you're bored. favorite for two years from now, >> well, who do you think is at the other side of the table. is going to emerge. >> must be donny. >> oh, it's donny. i think the testing is still >> got to be. there. i'm hearing this is like the >> donny undressing. election of the 1980s cycle when we saw a lot of candidates vying >> what was with that? >> that was weird. for the republican nomination >> that's what happens. knowing they were going to succeed a weak president. it's like private dancer. >> and michael gerson, a guy you >> he was just like standing up know, writes about the the gop's and up dressing. new reality. >> the necklace with the shark i'm just going to read a couple quick lines from it. he starts out by saying

tooth? following the recent tea party dude, we are not on waikiki and the this is not 1976. tete offensive, tea party >> puca shells. the look of summer. >> all bad. candidates often lose winnable >> i don't know what those are. >> puca beads? races. he goes on to talk about how ted come on. cruz, despite the fact the >> we have frank bruni here. party's numbers have collapsed, author of a great article. says democrats are feeling the heat. and then he says it's one thing to engage in pickets charge, "hil it's another to describe it as a victory. don't most republicans that you "hil "hillyry in 2016, not so fast." talk to, don't most republicans there is no poetry in them. realize that we did a really that's not good. stupid thing as a party over the she sailed high as secretary of state because apart from past several months and we need benghazi, she could and did to move away from even what the position herself mostly above national review is calling the partisan fray. the hellcat had become a cool apocalyptic conservativism? >> no. i agree with that description. cat, wearing shades instead of thick glasses. i think, first of all, we want our government to work. the meme of all memes. we want it to work better, but we don't want it to stop nine months later she's returned working. and we need good governance in to earth. it's a fickle place. washington, d.c. one of the widely circulated we don't just need nuggets from the just published obstructionists. i think we need people who are

book "double down, game change there to help solve problems and get them done. i've said far long time, i like the passion that comes to 20 2012" is that obama's advisers washington from the people who are kind of -- bring a view of considered knocking joe biden perfection and argue for it and stand up and fight for it, but off the ticket and putting hillary on. at the end of the day i want the anecdote has been cast as an people to have the courage to work for perfectly good. i want the government to find insult to biden but he solutions to the problems. and i almost like the process remaineded. what does that say about hillary? of, you know, lock the doors and >> she's supposed to be magic. let's come to an agreement and >> the research showed if the try to find a solution rather swap was made it wouldn't be a than just get stuck only great bump for obama. if she's got such a magic -- problems that i'm looking for a >> what did they find? solution. >> right. >> and, you know, we've heard this so much now, though, from, >> it didn't improve the numbers you know, republican elite like materially. one thing they were concerned about was she had injected a you, and it's easy to stay. jolt of excitement on the b but what happens when you get a candidate like chris christie or ticket. a candidate who has been she also would have been a effective at reaching out to the weakness to back away from other side? biden. there are pluses and minuses to does the same old same old go in either direction. happen again when push comes to shove and the republican >> she has a problem on top of presidential race begins? i mean, how do you sort of get that. voter disgust with the stratus

beyond what sounds great in quo has risen. terms of what you're saying to i have serious questions. i would be curious for your actually winning? thoughts on this. in 2016 are people going to want >> well, that's the test of the somebody who is rooted in primary and the caucus process that's coming up. i think it takes real strong yesterday? >> there was a real leadership within the party. possibility -- everybody is looking at chris christie. now, this is subsets of the the election is in front of us. party to see who can motivate the best bet is a bush server people to show up at the polls or at caucus meetings over the jus a clinton. course of the next two years. jeb versus hillary. >> that's the best bet? and, you know, i remember the >> but jeb won't run. election of 1980. there were almost 19 candidates >> doesn't that make you tired? in the early stages that were >> i'm not sure. running for president and ronald reagan might have been the the bushies are trying to make front-runner but he wasn't the favorite. and there was an awful lot of it happen. you mentioned bush or clinton sifting and that sifting and you're right. produced a very good candidate, ronald reagan, for president. there is this, geez, do we want and it also resulted in george the to go back to where we were 25 years ago? >> when i look at polls saying h.w. bush being selected as vice 60% of americans, which i think president. and that was seen as something is high, all members of congress that was really uniting for the replaced including their party. i think we can do the same thing congress person. again, but it's early in the 63% say we need a third party. process. there's going to be a lot of another all time high. people out there testing the waters if you will and finding does that mean a bush or clinton what the traction is.

can have traction? we'll let the process work. we had problems earlier. >> you remember in 2008 mark >> andy, we've had a couple more mckin non, the explaining part quick questions. of why obama was appealing he mark halpern. >> andy, take off your partisan said the bumper sticker should hat for just a minute and put on have been not a clinton, not a your former chief of staff hat. bush. vote obama. what should dennis mcdonough say there was dynasty fatigue. to the president and tell him the truth about what should be done to resolve the problems on >> exactly. health care? >> first of all, i fault not frank, thanks so much. only the president but i fault great column frank said he the people around the president doesn't like getting up early. for allowing him to mislead the >> you look great. american people for so long. >> we have to go. his categorical statements were thanks, frank. made not as a candidate but as a back in a moment. so i president of the united states. and words do matter at the white tri ed depend so i last weekend. house. and it's usually somebody in the white house that goes to the tri it really made the difference president and said, mr. between a morning around the house president, you said that but it's not entirely true. and getting a little exercise. you've got to put a caveat hi-ya! around it. so i think there were a lot of people that knew what the president was saying, knew it and i tried a baking class. wasn't accurate, but nobody was correcting it. so i think there should be a little mea culpa at the white one weekend can make all the difference. house not just from the president but from all the unlike the bargain brand, people around the president depend gives you the confidence of new fit-flex® protection. because he has real problems. >> exactly. it's a smooth and comfortable fit with more lycra strands. >> the other thing is i think they've got to be candid with the american people.

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john meechum in nashville. is there a danforth there? >> no. he's in st. louis. >> okay. >> there's only one danforth. >> sure. wow. julie pace in washington. >> one meechum in tennessee. one danforth in missouri. >> joining the table former mccain senior campaign strategist and nbc political analyst steve schmidt. >> we're going to talk about races in second. it will be an important race. same thing with new jersey for presidential politics. also in alabama, extraordinarily important race. john, i want to go back. let's talk about what we touched on for a minute or two. >> yeah. we had mike allen saying democrats are quietly starting to say to the white house, do yourself a favor. back up. let's delay this six months. get the launch right. clean up the mess.

last night i ate every bit of your halloween candy. >> no clam. >> we ate it. red state governors know it will >> all gone! blow up in their campaigns. >> don't eat our candy! they know it. >> i'm so sorry. so shouldn't the president -- >> i hate you! historically looking at all of this, does it make sense for the president to back up, delay this for six months and go back and do it right? >> i ate all you guys' candy. this launch has been catastrophic. it keeps getting worse every day >> but you don't even have a l for them politically. it's the democrats running for gallbladd senate and the house in 2014 gallbladder. that is going to hurt the most. >> you know, there is the old fdr rule about bold persistent >> hey, guys. guess what? experimentation. you have to try something. >> what? >> we're kidding. if it doesn't work, admit it all the candy's in the laundry room. frankly. above all, try something. they have to admit this frankly. they did a modified admission >> so cute. about a week ago now. this does feel like it's spiralling. good one. >> they put videos in front of kids and make them cry. the president put his finger on >> it's cruel. it when he said the rhetoric of >> all cgi. no real children. reform is becoming the reality >> i make them cry but for other of reform.

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history to be a blip on a larger find your co-pay cost at myflexpen.com. ask your health care provider about novolog® flexpen today. program. they will look back on it as a blip, a website problem. or maybe they over promised for a 5% sliver of people -- as they call it -- who were over promised on the issue. the white house is unlikely to reverse course. i don't think they will put a six-month hold on it. where their electricity comes from. i think they want the to ride they flip the switch-- and the light comes on. out the storm, get the website it's our job to make sure that it does. fixed and eventually the affordable care act b will be using natural gas this power plant good enough for enough people it will be viewed as a success. can produce enough energy for about 600,000 homes. >> we'll find out over time but one thing the white house is generating electricity that's cleaner insinuating is, look, this is a technical problem, a website and reliable, with fewer emissions-- problem. this doesn't go to the heart, it matters. the structure of the entitlement. the flaws inherent to this. ♪ then you look at the data protection issues. the ability to hold their private, sensitive information confidential. there will be cascading issues

that haven't been discussed yet. as this this starts to fracture welcome back to "morning joe." and come apart over the next we are so glad you're here couple of months. today. and we e hope that this has been materially, the president's just as satisfying for you. misrepresentations of the a wonderful time, hasn't it, mark halpern? program, the largest expansion >> fulfilling. from an entitlement perspective >> it's been great. i've loved it. on the narrowest of partisan >> yeah. >> your book, it's selling by votes, the foundation of this the millions already. brian, what did you learn today? >> i learned if you're going to legislation, i think, is in thely stages of collapsing. take a la ma onto the subway you we are at the beginning of the should bring a disguise. story, not the middle or end. >> matt. >> listen, the obama it's far deeper than a technical administration, the change it if you like it, you can keep it if issue. >> i have angered republicans by telling the truth about what ted it hasn't changed, i'll be interested to see how the cruz's strategy would bleed to. message changes. >> what did you learn, mika? i wasn't alone. a lot of us predicted this. >> i think chris christie will make history tonight. and it happened. republicans are now having the >> okay. lowest approval rating ever. fair enough. that virginia race, i'll tell i have to say to my democratic you what, i'm going to be watching the virginia race. ron paul went to virginia friends. the same thing will happen here. yesterday and said you'd be crazy to vote for the the tea party didn't just come libertarian candidate. and drop down on earth from i don't know. that race in virginia may be mars. these people didn't come from closer than we think, but all eyes i think in the republican anywhere. they are the children of obama party, at least, on alabama to care. they get elected because of the see whether the chamber and joe

ricketts and others make a excesses in 2009 and 2010. difference. what time is it? >> "morning joe." we predicted it on this show in stay tuned for a very special election day issue of chuck real time. so why does the president need todd's "the daily rundown." to back up? >> it's llama time. why does he need to catch his breath? why does he need to stop sounding like richard nixon in a bunker trying to explain why he didn't lie to the american come on. people when there is a tape of that music. doesn't g him doing that 26, 27, 28 times. what happened in 2010 with the over reach is impacting politics today in washington, d.c. if this continues, yes, the website will be fixed. but the scar tissue politically will elect a lot more people in 2014 that look like the people that were elected in 2010. this doesn't happen in a vacuum. >> i just -- >> you look at democratic support even with the horrible leadership. it's democrats who are suffering now and will continue to suffer

if the president doesn't take a leadership role. that's why senate democratic candidates from red states are going to the president right now and saying, we are in trouble. you need to help us. >> i think you can hone in on that potential problem for the democrats, especially in the midterms, maybe. you're not considering the shutdown. you're not considering the negative impact of the tea party. you're not considering the damage that ted cruz has done to the republican party. i would say the white house in the past few weeks by virtue of the failed launch and the misstatements by the president given the fact that they should have predicted there would be even a few people who are knocked off their plans who were given great hardship because of the health care law and whether it's five people or 5 million, those are stories that are going to be told and b stories the communications department in the administration and the democratic party should have predicted. that's just stupid ti -- >> hey, hey -- >> may i finish?

the thing is right now, i think the potential for the republicans to still lose out is strong. i think the president has time to fix this. here's what could fix this -- getting people signed up. i don't know how they do it. if they could get millions of people signed up, it will help a lot and it will debunk what you are saying. >> so far ted cruz has gotten out of the way. the republicans have gotten out of the way. they have learned their lesson. one thing you the don't want to happen is the white house to undergo bunker mentality where the president is saying things that aren't true about what he said before which wasn't true. you don't want jay carney

attacking the most respected press corps members in washington. >> you said to bypass it with paper or on the phone and it can be done in 25 minutes but they all go through the same portal. >> john, i get it. but the person who calls isn't the one who continues to wait after the paper application is filled. >> your mocking is entertaining but the president said you could apply within 25 minutes. that was not true. >> we see you sitting in the frame right next to john carl. take us inside the room. where is that frustration coming from we see with jay carney? >> a lot of the frustration from those of us in the press corps is that you hear the white house -- both the president and his advisers acknowledging that there is confusion, that there is misinformation that's out there about the health care law but not acknowledging their role in creating the confusion. not acknowledging that some of this comes from their statements and explanations. in talking about the politics of

it and their bunker mentality, you have senate democrats, particularly who are in these red states saying to the white house, maybe we need to hold on. you even had dianne feinstein who said to the chief of oh staff that maybe they should take down the website while they are solving the problems. from the white house perspective taking down the website or holding off for six months even if the end result. they don't want to be seen as having to admit that this simply isn't working. i will say quickly there is a thing republicans have to worry about. if everyone acknowledges obama care isn't working in its current form there will be a point where they turn to republicans and say maybe you disagreed and you were b able to delay or stop it. now what? waes your plan. >> for what it's worth the president's tone as he tried to

walk back his repeated statement that if you like your insurance you will keep your policy. he takes on a lecturing tone to say there is always churn in the markets and don't you all understand that? it's the most revealing human element here, more so than carney. clearly there is an enormous amount of frustration. while that's a natural human reaction it's not going to physician it. let's be blunt. one of the fundamental tests of a democratic administration is that you leave the public sector stronger and more credible than when you came in. republicans have to make the private sector more credible and stronger than when they came in. that's why the end of the bush administration was difficult. the economic crisis was a failure. what is happening now is there is a possibility that the president one year almost to the day from his re-election is

facing something where the public sector is not going to emerge for these eight years stronger or in certainly going to emerge less popular. that's what is at stake. >> the big crisis coming for the president on health care is as you said before. obama care is in the spotlight. the old system, the insurance market was capricious, costs out of control for individuals in the macro economy and irrational. the president's confident he built a better system that will eventually lower costs, will be more rational and limit the power of insurance companies to take advantage of people. people aren't thinking of the old system. they are thinking of the problems with obama care and whether the problem is lack of honesty about what to do in the individual market, whether it's about the computer, all the other changes coming, rising rates in some places, he has a big problem. he can no longer say this is better than before. people are saying is this what we want. if you have a system like this this there will be problems. >> to john meechum's point one

of the defining characteristics of this is the collapse of trust of nearly every institution in the country, particularly government institutions. so this becomes sort of a death spiral because it requires to fix this more and more representations by an administration that when they talk about this has misrepresented the consequences. this is the consequence of passing legislation that nobody read or understood. nancy pelosi said we'll figure out what's in it when we pass it. we are figuring out what's in it and the administration has a big problem for the next couple of years. >> steve, stay with us. up next, how presidential politics loom over today's races for governor in virginia and new jersey. nbc's chuck todd joins us on set. ♪

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obama care will have men and women paying the same amount for health care. but since women live longer and have babies shouldn't they pay more? >> under the new law they are including essential health benefits including maternity, pediatric dental and vision, contraceptive services and free birth control pills, none of which are young man needs or wants. [ laughter ] >> did you catch that? under obama care men will pay the same amount as women and yet we still don't get to pass a cantaloupe with toenails through our genitals. >> see? that was fantastic. everybody is cringing on set. you guys are pitiful. seriously. >> that's -- >> i have never had that imagery before. wow. >> can you imagine?

>> that was good. >> no. i can't. i have had kidney stones. >> oh, please. >> don't "oh, please me." i know. >> oh, please. they are not alive. >> not the same as passing a cantaloupe with toenails. >> it's not a cantaloupe. >> steve is bright red. >> i have three kids. i have been there for all of them. >> bright red. >> i can only imagine. >> willii? >> i have been in the room for two of them. i have seen the -- yeah. >> can you imagine? >> no. i don't want to. >> okay. >> thanks, mika. >> justing sure. >> your gender guilt trip of the day. >> exactly. >> that could be a sponsored segment with mika. >> the gender guilt trip of the day, brought to you by -- >> monistat. >> begin with the apology. >> begin every one.

>> always too mean to take it. >> you should consider taking something. so, let me ask you, chuck. zoom in on chuck. virginia today, we have a six-point lead for terry mcauliffe. will we have more tightening than that? >> it goes the other way, if anywhere. >> sounds like inside the camps, talking like this one is over. >> it is. >> you look for certain tells. following around chris christie. he ran mcdonald's campaign four years ago in virginia. i said, hey, what are you doing here. he said, oh, you know, with one of my governors. didn't want to talk about it. you look for little tells like that.

the money thing has been a gap for a month. the rga hasn't thrown in any money in the last couple of weeks. you put that all together. >> is that because ken cuccinelli is too far right? >> no. this is a win and a lose. a political party will support any candidate with a shot of winning. right, steve? the last two weeks for a campaign, it's about winning and losing. >> the terry mcauliffe, i'm sorry. i know the guy. i like him very much. he's just not a tight fit for virginia and the b fact that the republicans have apparently lost the race to terry mcauliffe speaks ill of the republican party in virginia now. >> incredible. political parties are either expanding or contracting. this is the inevitable consequence of nominating somebody through a caucus process. >> explain why did they decide to do it through a convention instead of a primary that would

have probably gotten a guy that would have beaten terry mcauliffe? >> in a primary you have impure people voting. you have rhinos participating. >> do you mean people who go to work every day and drop their kids off at school and go to work. >> eat food. >> come home and -- >> grocery shop. >> put the kids to bed and don't spend all day listening to talk radio on the blogosphere? those people. >> exactly right. >> we don't want those people participating in the process? >> we want them watching television from 5:30 to 10:00. >> absolutely. >> any time you look at a political organization that has an ideological problem in that it was captured by idealogues, the first thing they do is hunt the heretics. find the people insured, shrink it. jim demint said i would rather have 33 people agree with me

100% of the time which is the opposite of reagan. he said if somebody agrees with me 80% of the time isn't my political oh opponent. we see the consequence of what a contracting republican party looks like in virginia. >> look at new jersey for a minute, too. governor christie himself. >> he's not hiding this. he said the country is watching. we'll show how republicans can win. do we take too much away? is this a new jersey story for the republican party or can it be a national story? >> if republicans want to make it a national story, they can. i don't know if republicans want to unite because the message is you don't govern. you do what you can get done. govern with the state legislature that you have. >> you work with the other side. >> it is -- listen to what we

could have today. an historic, once in a generation issue. no republican in a statewide race got over 50% since george w. bush in 1988. >> no pro-life governor has been elected statewide since row v. wade passed. >> this ticket could lead to the first democratic sweep where democrats hold all five statewide offices. the two u.s. senate seats. we'll see. the a.g. race is close. if they could hold all five, first time since the nixon administration. >> cuccinelli is the most moderate of the people on the ticket. >> here you are looking at it and you say, geez. if i'm planning the republican party, this guy reached out to the middle. this guy didn't. >> you have been asking for

years. steve has, too. do we let hillary clinton appoint bureaucrats for the next eight years after barack obama leaves while we are hunting h ergs retic srs. look at what joe ricke the tts is doing. a conservative guy, god bless him. going to alabama one, right across the state line from my old district. putting in the $100,000. the chamber of commerce, god bless them. i don't always agree. but here they are going down, finding bradley byrne, a conservative republican, whose belief in the bible was questioned by his tea party opponent. does the fever break tonight in mobile, alabama, in the district? >> i don't think the fever breaks yet. i think we are shaping up for the titanic fight we have to have in the republican party.

when it comes to being able to nominate candidates. you have the ability to communicate to. >> that's what the constituents wanted them to do. >> they said we have played this game. this electability game. it got us this prescription drug benefit and higher deficits. that's the conservative argument. you understand that frustration. right, joe? you do understand that frustration. >> what you don't understand, chuck, is this. >> that's a real tension. >> where were these people while i was attacking george bush? >> that's true. they hide. they do. >> i was attacking bush and they were calling p me a rhino then for attacking george bush as a

big spending republican. now suddenly they found jesus and some 2010 conversion. death bed conversion and if you don't want to torch washington in a day, i'm a rhino for attacking bush for years and then for wanting to win election. where were these people while george bush was spin spending us into debt? where was ted cruz? isn't it amazing. people get more conservative when a democrat is in the white house. >> right. and vice versa. this happens in the democratic party. they are all stying united because there is a democrat in the white house. president obama sits there, and goes, wow, republicans supported this in 2006 and 2007 when bush was p. various items he tried to get done and suddenly they are not doing it. you can't help but see there is a political conversion and political convenience. there is no doubt. >> we're going to let him go as

far as he wants to go. >> this is the real test here in what the establishment has to figure out and with joe ricketts how do you separate the tea party supporters from the groups. some are in it for the money. no doubt. >> they are trying to make money off this. it's a scam. >> they are trying to profit off the real anger here with a economically challenged parts of america and rural america where, guess what, the economy has not gotten better the in the last ten years. this is frustration. the tea party groups, i think, are taking advantage of peep. i think that will be the challenge. chris christie can't alienate the tea party supporters. >> right. >> he has to figure out how to separate groups from supporters. that's what mitch mcconnell is trying to do in kentucky. we'll see if he can pull it off. >> reagan was able to do that. i will say it again. bob mcdonald was able to do it. >> never had a primary.

he never had a primary and it benefitted him greatly. >> he figured out they were calling him a crazy right wing kook. he focused on jobs, won over the state. >> not having a primary. >> well, it helps. going out of your way not to have a caucus so specifically bring somebody that's not electable in a general election campaign. >> chris christie is a conservative who can win and attract people into the party. that's what you need in a presidential election. he certainly is no moderate. he's governed as a conservative. he'll campaign should he run for president as a conservative. he's a conservative who can appeal to people who switch back and forth in these presidential elections. that's an important attribute, not a detriment. >> steve schmidt, thank you. chuck, we'll see you on "the daily rundown." straight ahead, a brush with

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[ speaking german ] >> the author of the myth of america's decline. politics, economics and a half century of false prophesies. i can't wait to here about it. you have known my father 40 years? >> i first met him in the national security council when both of us stopped the soviet invasion of poland. >> exactly. >> he used me as a messenger boy. i spread the word. that stopped the soviets in their tracks. >> isn't it nice of him to use you? >> i was proud. >> how would you describe him? >> very smart, very polish. >> uh-huh. >> with an extra layer of anglo humor. >> that's pretty good. the myth of america's decline. is it a myth, josef? >> yes. >> even my father will say flying back into the united states is like flying back in time. especially when he goes to places like singapore and china. >> yeah.

>> where the growth is exponential. >> this is not exactly flying back in time, this studio here. this is state of the art. but the point i was trying to make was not dealing with anecdotes. lots of things you could find oh in this country and any country. i was talking about that the so-called miracle china is now going down the same route all the other asian tigers in the last 50 years have done -- japan, taiwan, et cetera. following their same growth model. the growth model comes to an end and we are already seeing they are now down to single digits. so that's one way in which you have to look at the long run. not anecdotes like the singapore airport. you look at some of the not only enduring strength of the united states but how they kind of reach forward into the future and then i would stop talking

about decline. >> love the amenities at the singapore airport. you sent me off a little bit. rather than drill down on three different kinds of foot massage and three different kinds of noodles. >> is that a sign of singapore power? >> there you go. >> no question the decline is exaggerated and we, by lots of measures, subjective and objective are ahead. isn't there enough of a gap closing that our meaningful influence on the economy, on diplomacy and military, isn't that all way down? >> that we have been moaning about for the last 50 years. great powers can't always get their way. especially not vis-a-vis small allies. you don't want to punish them and waegeaken them. not getting your way isn't necessarily the right measure. i was looking at, a, the end of the chinese growth model which has always mesmerized us. we have looked at previous candidates who were slated to

displace them. the soviet union back in the 50s, sputnik, little johnny can't read. soviet union is no more. then it was europe. europe is stagnating. then japan. japan was like horror vision in the '80s. the source of paranoia after they bought rockefeller center, this was it. japanese would inherit the world. down to zero growth. to come back to your point, even the greatest powers can't always get their way. but that's been true since the '50s. >> let me ask you as editor and publisher of the newspaper in germany, how is the nsa spying -- >> being handled? >> yeah. >> let me tell you what i think. if president obama would ask me, i would give him the following

sp irgs spiel, yes, mr. president. we always do the spying, we spy on each other, even on friends. we do it, you do it, the french, the brits. first rule is don't get caught. since you always get caught eventually, mr. president, it's not worth it. i wouldn't do it. not with my best european ally. so let prudence prevail over paranoia. and then if you would still keep me there i would say, you know, paranoia is getting out of bounds in this country. >> mm-hmm. >> you're going to grant al qaeda that kind of victory by quaking in fear? >> we could do an hour on the myth of america's decline. thank you so much for giving us a small taste of the book. jos ergs f jaffe, thank you. >> thank you. >> up next from unemployed to internet sensation. how a young photographer is

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